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She's wearing the dress she was wearing at the London Premiere of 'Harry Potter and the Half Blood Prince' 11 years ago. *sigh* I hope we'll get more photos.
Turns out the interview we had two days ago was not full, this one is.
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So now apparently Emma is in agreement (with Hudson and EW's unnamed friend)that referring to the earth by a male pronoun would mean that we would treat it better.
I'm going to go out on a limb here and say drillers, loggers, polluters etc don't actually give a damn whether it's mother or father earth.
Seriously this is starting to get into illuminati/cult territory.
Anonymous said...
So now apparently Emma is in agreement (with Hudson and EW's unnamed friend)that referring to the earth by a male pronoun would mean that we would treat it better.
I'm going to go out on a limb here and say drillers, loggers, polluters etc don't actually give a damn whether it's mother or father earth.
Seriously this is starting to get into illuminati/cult territory.
I have to agree with you. You can call it Elysium, Paradise, Heaven, Valhalla, whatever you want and it is not going to be treated any better. The idea that it would be is a little nuts, to be blunt. I'm starting to worry about Emma...
I will admit right off that I am a man. Having said that, I agree with most of the mainstream feminist movement. Hell, you could even say I'm a Matriarchist. I am not one of those guys that is naive enough to think that the world is better off with men running it. I think if women ran the world there would be much less poverty, war, inequality, hatred, etc. Some of this stuff though, especially thinking that the planet would be treated better if called Father Earth, is asinine wack job level stuff. Come back from the dark side, Emma.
It is comments like the Father Earth stuff that turn people off from the feminist movement and make people think that we are just a bunch of fringe crazies. We are not, of course, but comments like that can paint us in that light. Emma has always been a voice of reason and logic for the feminist cause, making sure that people are aware that it is not about man hating as she made clear in her United Nations speech, but about equality and fairness. Some of the stuff from Emma as of late has been moving to the fringe and is not helping our cause. That comment about Father Earth is just plain crazy. She is entitled to her opinion of course, but if that comment goes mainstream, people are just going to say that Emma is "just another one of those crazy feminists." Emma, if you are reading this, please tell me that the comment was just a joke.
I don't see the difference between the interviews( Can anyone help me there?
Anonymous said
So now apparently Emma is in agreement (with Hudson and EW's unnamed friend)that referring to the earth by a male pronoun would mean that we would treat it better.
I'm going to go out on a limb here and say drillers, loggers, polluters etc don't actually give a damn whether it's mother or father earth.
Seriously this is starting to get into illuminati/cult territory.
I couldn't agree with you more even If I want to. Not everyone is fixated on gender stuff, like Emma is and people usually don't analize that somthing has male or female pronoun. I supported Emma Heforshe campaign, although I'm not a fan when entertainer gets into politics, but her latest theories become crazier and crazier. She goes so far left that she looks like kind of anarchist.
"Emma has always been a voice of reason and logic for the feminist cause, making sure that people are aware that it is not about man hating as she made clear in her United Nations speech, but about equality and fairness."
She started out that way but hasnt really banged that drum in quite a long time. I think she is truly getting brainwashed by the deeper side of the movement has moved into anti-male territory. Just looking at some of her comments in this interview has solidified my concern.
Its to bad, i truly thought she was different than most but it was just a facade in the end. Sucks.
"I supported Emma Heforshe campaign, although I'm not a fan when entertainer gets into politics, but her latest theories become crazier and crazier. "
Same here.
I just read that pronoun Earth comment and the text doesn't exactly give the tone of how Emma is saying it, but it seems to be more of a sarcastic retort rather than an affirmative point.
Also it wasn't Emma herself that brought up this point, it was just an 'interesting' tidbit she heard from a friend, kinda like how our friends say random shit when we're high or just not being too serious. If you've seen Emma's interviews, you know she doesn't mean to be serious with every word she says. Her saying its a good point isn't necessarily meant to be taken for its accuracy per say.
Even with all of this and how I defend her activism, this is probably the 'wackiest' take she's given some thought to publicly, but I still don't think this warrants any outcry really. I think the frustrations come from how little she seems to be showing us in terms of whether she still wants to act or write or do anything really.
It's so easy to an anarchist, a socialist, a leftist being a multi-billionaire and not being forced to work a single day for making living... From the very beginning (she grew up in a very wealthy family) and after (the whole HP circus with home/on set education, private limos and chauffeurs) and still: Emma is living in a bubble.
FYI: I'm women who support wholeheartedly the feminist movement and at the same time I don't have to worry about my income (so far) since I earn pretty well.
Male related concern and jealousy are not the case here.
For those that don't know Valerie Hudson joined the Mormon church as a teenager and is still a member.
The Mormons are run by an all male hierarchy, women are not eligible to be priests and have to wear a dress/skirt to church & formal meetings and as of January this year the LDS officially proclaimed;
"Sometimes certain philosophies and social movements bearing the feminism label advocate extreme ideas that are not in harmony with the teachings of the gospel. “These can lead people to become distracted from (or even work against) the ideals of marriage and family. Latter-day Saints frown upon such things."
They add;
"Men and women are also different, with different roles within a family. Both men and women fulfill their highest purpose together as husband and wife, not separately."
To be fair gays are tolerated. Well provided they abstain from sex.
I'm guessing the LDS aren't big on kink culture.
Not really sure how Emma can be so in awe of someone who is member of a church with such ideas.
Oh Ms Hudson and her husband have 8 children.
Poor father earth is groaning.
This part of their conversation and whole theory about ''Father Earth"" was so dumb, that even people in Teen Vogue thought it is not worth to publish it, although they used idiotic but catchy title (then they changed it, because Emma called them out on her instagram).
Anonymous said...
For those that don't know Valerie Hudson joined the Mormon church as a teenager and is still a member.
The Mormons are run by an all male hierarchy, women are not eligible to be priests and have to wear a dress/skirt to church & formal meetings and as of January this year the LDS officially proclaimed;
"Sometimes certain philosophies and social movements bearing the feminism label advocate extreme ideas that are not in harmony with the teachings of the gospel. “These can lead people to become distracted from (or even work against) the ideals of marriage and family. Latter-day Saints frown upon such things."
As a former member of the Mormon church that even went on a mission(to England) before getting out several years ago, I can assure you that being Mormon and a feminist are completely incompatible. I do not know how Valerie Hudson can call herself a feminist and be Mormon. Up until about a year and a half ago, women in the church had to promise to obey their husbands in their temple ceremony-you can watch hidden camera videos of it on Youtube. They finally did away with that part a little over a year ago, but it is still a completely patriarchal church. Being Mormon and a feminist are polar opposites. I don't know how she can be a member of the Mormon church and still claim to be a feminist. That boggles my mind. Maybe she is not active any longer. I don't know. Weird...
I love that dress so much, and loved this look so much at te HBP premiere, I'm really glad the dress is back and used at least a second time.
Coolio said.
Also it wasn't Emma herself that brought up this point, it was just an 'interesting' tidbit she heard from a friend, kinda like how our friends say random shit when we're high or just not being too serious.
Yeah that's why she brought it up in the interview with someone she admire and probably someone whose opinion is important to Emma. If it was worth to mention, it means that Emma thinks this concept is intresting, but let's be real it is one of the creaziest sh*t I read recently. It is not only because it is stupid in my opinion, but mostly because it's not important if we called our planet mother earth or father earth.
"If it was worth to mention, it means that Emma thinks this concept is intresting..."
Agreed.
And of course she chose to post it on her instagram even though it was edited out of the Teen Vogue article.
That indicates to me it is something that she considers important (and seemingly endorses).
Just my 2 cents here... Basically what y'all are annoyed/mad at is a comment Emma's friend made once.Instead of all the other fucked up shit they mentioned. Y'all really chose to zoom on a comment at the very end of an interview bit not about what the interview was mostly about. Y'all make seem like she went on a whole rant about Father Earth instead of Mother Earth. This is literally what happened when she said she was "self-partnered". What I don't get is how that comment got y'all more upset than the abnormal birth ratio did. Or got your attention more than women's risk of poverty is determined as to whether or not. Or how the woman cheif in Malawi was able to break 300 forced marriages however that kind of thing isn't common.There's so many intersting things they talked about. Yet an comment that isn't even half a slide is what your all riled up about ... Really?
* Stay at home (if possible), wash your hands and have a nice day.
There is one more thing that no one mention. Kink culture is ok, but talking about it in teen magazine is a risky move. Kink culture is a slippery road. First of all If you choose a wrong partner it could scared you for a long time. Plus it's more than just about 'consent' - it sets up a dynamic and mindset around power in general, and if couple don't set boundaries right, it might not end in bedroom, which isn't conducive to good mental health and good relationship. So in general I wouldn't encourage teenagers to try this kind of relationship to early. Overall I must say that this is probably the most disturbing interview Emma ever did and I wonder, if it was to be made for a teen magazine from the beginning.
"Just my 2 cents here... Basically what y'all are annoyed/mad at is a comment Emma's friend made once.Instead of all the other fucked up shit they mentioned. Y'all really chose to zoom on a comment at the very end of an interview bit not about what the interview was mostly about. Y'all make seem like she went on a whole rant about Father Earth instead of Mother Earth. This is literally what happened when she said she was "self-partnered". What I don't get is how that comment got y'all more upset than the abnormal birth ratio did. Or got your attention more than women's risk of poverty is determined as to whether or not. Or how the woman cheif in Malawi was able to break 300 forced marriages however that kind of thing isn't common.There's so many intersting things they talked about. Yet an comment that isn't even half a slide is what your all riled up about ... Really?
* Stay at home (if possible), wash your hands and have a nice day."
Thanks for the input and good points.
There are some good things being done but it doesnt mean you allow the other stuff to slide in the process. For me personally when it comes to gender equality its a matter of consistency with not only what you say but what you do.
In the end Emma is going to be Emma no matter who says what. And she is quite fortunate to have a platform to do all these things. At the same time it also means she opens herself up and her stances/opinions/statements to criticism when they happen. She shouldnt be immune to that "just because" some people dont like it.
I had some problems with some of the other statements made as well in terms of relationships, etc. Is it the end of the world? Nah. But its quite alright to disagree with her and feel that maybe she has lost her way a bit with some of her views and such.
About abnormal birth ratio. This happens in countries which were pluged with a wars like Kosowo. In Whole north america, most South America, almost whole Europe and Russia the are more women, than men. So it's completly blew out of proportion.
Can we all agree that out the entire interview just like the anon above said. The "Mother/Father Earth" is literally the least important thing she talked about. And yet it's the only thing people in the 1st half of the comment section was interested in.
I am a guy. I assume most people on here are ladies. I could be wrong. I consider myself a feminist. I even signed up for Heforshe. That being said, I need some help from the ladies. I don't understand all this stuff about women needing to find their own language and words to express themselves in their own kind of language because they are trying to express emotions in a language created by men to express theirs. I know Emma used that quote and that it was, as she pointed out, said by Thomas Hardy- a man. Maybe I am too stupid to get it, but are they saying that women are incapable or unable to express themselves and their emotions within the confines of present vocabulary and that is why Emma had to come up with her "self partnered" description? Unless I am missing something, all that just sounds like a bunch of nonsensical mumbo jumbo, full of sound and fury signifying nothing, that serves only to drive a wedge between the sexes and not bring them together.
As far as I'm concerned, everyone has made statements that come across as silly, like the Father Earth one. How many statements has she actually made that would make you think she's going crazy?
Can we all agree that out the entire interview just like the anon above said. The "Mother/Father Earth" is literally the least important thing she talked about.
Yes we can. That doesn't mean we are forbiden to talk about everything. We can also agree that this interview is super cringe, and besides Malawi forced marriages, the other aspects are just a
philosophical talking: father earth, kink culture ( I agree with Gacek870 it's a freaking teen magazine), or theory that gay couples have a better communication, which is complete rubbish, cause if you found right partner, gender is not an issue. I like Emma, I have been follow her career since Harry Potter, and Hermione Granger was my child book hero, but I have feeling, that she became some kind of philosopher, with strange ideas, and she is throwing them in interviews from time to time to stay relevant and be quoted, because it easier than playing in the movies and then promoting them. Stay healthy and save.
This birth ratio thing is only half true. If we look by countries, there are more women in: whole North America, South America (minus Bolivia and Paraguay), Europe (minus Sweden, Norway, and tinies Bolivia and Kosowo) plus we need count whole Russia which spreads in two continents, Australia, and all countries in south half of Africa. So to speak a truth, there are more males only because of Middle East and especially China. I know that Emma might not know this things but Valerie Hudson should be a specialist here.
"Can we all agree that out the entire interview just like the anon above said. The "Mother/Father Earth" is literally the least important thing she talked about."
In terms of women struggling for equality/opportunity/safety/justice etc it is, but in terms of Emma's messaging/mindset I actually think it's the most important.
Emma is a high profile seemingly intelligent advocate for feminism yet comes out with this.
As far as I'm concerned anyone who advances the mother/father earth argument loses credibility as an ambassador for the feminist movement.
In my view, in the last year or so, Emma is focussing more and more on gender politics and wasting an opportunity of using her profile and status to actually make a difference to the lives of girls/women worldwide, in areas such as education, poverty, health etc.
To everyone who is having a mental breakdown over the topic of Mother Earth being gendered I suggest you at least read the wikipedia page on Ecofeminism cause you are making a fool of yourselves
I don't know why people are obsessing over comments so much. But it's really not a particularly crazy idea. It's the same logic as saying god being treated as an old white guy has some kind of specific racist or sexist history to it.
It's just a comment. Relax. If I was hanging out with a friend and they said "maybe we'd treat earth better if it were a guy" I'd find it to be kind of funny if anything.
Is it true? Maybe, maybe not. Who cares?
Ecofeminism is a thing but it's how Emma talks about it that sounds absurb. Never been a fan of her as an interviewer but this one is the worst to date imo. She looks lovely in that photo, it's strange that there is no photo with Hudson? I hope she goes back to acting soon.
I know some people {hi Eden :) } still hold out some hope that Emma will continue in the entertainment industry, even perhaps in an off camera role, my own view is that she would like to pursue a career in academia.
I say that because she seems to be pivoting away from 'grassroots' feminism (eg womens health, girls education etc) and moving towards more 'esoteric/scholarly' matters (eg white privilege, trans rights, ecofeminism). It's a gradual transition (and the two aren't necessarily incompatible) but I have little doubt that it is taking place.
Holding only an undergraduate degree would normally preclude an academic career, but her high profile and association with Lady Margaret Hall may open a few doors.
I'm much more inclined to believe that Emma will soon be on staff in a womens/gender study department than being involved in a new cinematic masterpiece.
I am going to go on a little bit of a rant, but before I do, I want to make some things clear. Emma has worked to make her money and is entitled to do anything she wants with it and is entitled to her opinion on any subject and can say whatever she wants and do whatever she wants. I certainly do not expect her to stand on some street corner and start handing out her money or anything. My problem is simple: It seems as if, especially as of late, she pays things nothing more than lip service and has become a hypocrite. She seems to be constantly on vacation somewhere. We have pictures of her in Mexico in January and the next month she is in the Spanish islands with her boyfriend or whoever he is. You can go back through the years and she seems to take several vacations a year. My problem is this: Don't sit around and lecture the world about how we need to do more to combat poverty and income inequality and injustice and fight global climate change and create more opportunities for women while you are out living the high life on some fancy vacation every month or two and switching where you are living between your three multi million dollar homes in London, New York and California, all the while creating a carbon footprint that is through the roof. And, no, using reusable makeup pads and vegan deodorant and glass straws and occasionally wearing sustainable clothing does not even come close to making up for all the rest. As I said, she can do whatever she wants with her life, but either practice what you preach or shut up about it all. I am afraid that Emma has turned into nothing more than another Hollywood hypocrite who is fond of telling everyone else what to do, while they then go out and do the exact opposite. I find it sad.
I agree with the anon from 1:07 PM. Emmas life is the all about inequality and promoting that you wear a dress more than once is already a slap in the face of every normal person but then to go on that many vacations...
By the way what happened to Pottershots? Just shut down? Where is everybody? They all disappeared?
'' I am afraid that Emma has turned into nothing more than another Hollywood hypocrite who is fond of telling everyone else what to do, while they then go out and do the exact opposite.''
It exactly how it looks like
''Holding only an undergraduate degree would normally preclude an academic career, but her high profile and association with Lady Margaret Hall may open a few doors.''
Having an undergraduate degree should disqualified her academic career, but somehow she became Associate Fellow. I thought we gonna hear about it more, but so far nothing..
To the Anon at 1:07 PM: couldn't agree with you more.
Nothing to add from my side.
You have said everything, perfectly hiting the nail on the head.
"By the way what happened to Pottershots? Just shut down? Where is everybody? They all disappeared?"
I still talk to Simon and some of the guys from there but outside of that no idea about everyone else.
Anon at 1:07 PM:
Your comment is perfect. I found it funny, that Emma admited in this interview that she lecterures men who have a problem with having a meeting with a women on their own, that they are not reasonable and realistic and they can do better than that, although she thinks wearing sustainable clothing is good enough to equalize all her traveling around the world.
Emma saying we will stop pillaging and killin the planet if we give it male pronouns is one of the most insane things I have read. She can not seriously believe that society cares about mens well being so much. Has she ever looked at any front lines? The United States, her chosen home, qualifies "combatants" as men over the age of 16. So their are targetd for drone strikes based on their gender. Men are the also the number 1 victims of murder and assault. The idea that people will care if you call it Father Earth isnt just silly but actively ignorant and damaging.
Nice April Fool post Eden.
How about an open thread during this crisis for the fans to chat? Thanks
I mean, I haven't seen anything implying she has a private jet. From what I can tell/have seen, she flies commercial. Not exactly the same "carbon footprint"
As someone who works for an airline she frequents. I can say she flies commercial every time. Those flights would've been made regardless she got on them or not. And unless you're personally paying for her trips, or you pay her rent/expenses. Why do you care where she lives/goes? Would also like to mention that she said she flies commercial every time she can a long ass time ago before celebrity environmental activism took off.
I dont think she has a private Jet but Emma clearly rented private Jets for travel. Most wealthy people do it because its way cheaper than buying and maintaining one. Even for someone of her net worth a jet would be too expensive and probably doesnt make sense.
Taylor Swift is wealthier and with her touring it makes more sense thats why she has a jet or two I dont remember and she probably can even save money by saying its traveling for work.
Anonymous said...
As someone who works for an airline she frequents. I can say she flies commercial every time. Those flights would've been made regardless she got on them or not. And unless you're personally paying for her trips, or you pay her rent/expenses. Why do you care where she lives/goes? Would also like to mention that she said she flies commercial every time she can a long ass time ago before celebrity environmental activism took off.
I am the one who made the comment about her carbon footprint and her activities and hypocrisy. As I said, she can do whatever she wants with her life and money. I do not care. She can buy 20 multi million dollar homes and spend the rest of her life on a permanent vacation going from one exotic locale to another every week. I do not care. I was simply pointing out that she is a hypocrite. That's all.
From the Daily Mail and several other magazines from October 2019:
"Harry Potter actress Emma Watson has been named by researchers as a greenhouse gas 'super-emitter'.
Swedish academics analysed the carbon footprints of ten famous people who travel the globe.
Miss Watson, the only Briton on the list, had the tenth worst environmental impact out of the group of celebrities selected, based on their social media accounts."
That is just from analyzing what they know about her travel and activities from analyzing where she is on her social media accounts. As all of us that follow this blog know, she is caught in many places that she does not post about on social media and that data also does not include the carbon footprint from her several homes, other activities, etc. Do what you want with your life, but don't hassle the world about saving the planet(which I think is important, by the way) when you are a greenhouse gas "super emitter" and they don't even know half of the places she goes and things she does.
Anonymous said...
From the Daily Mail and several other magazines from October 2019:
Damn. That article says her carbon footprint is 3 times the average person and that is only from what they know about from tracking her activity on social media. We get all sorts of stuff-all these vacations and things that we know about that she does not post on social media that are not included in that study. I bet her carbon footprint is probably more like 10 times the average person at minimum. Come on, Emma!
"As someone who works for an airline she frequents. I can say she flies commercial every time."
How would you even know how she flies EVERY TIME? If she flies with another airline or a charter jet or on a plane of a friend/lover you wouldnt even know that. There are pictures of her in private jets you know. They took one on Perks promo tour too.
Thats like saying "Everytime we see Emmas boyfriend is with her" Obviously because thats when he is photographed and all the time without her he isnt.
Emma clearly travels way more than the average person and it is totally valid criticism. Especially when she talks about some eco lip stick as if thats the big problem.
1. It’s a whole fascinating interview with a lot of useful points about sex, culture, and politics and a bunch of people are acting like a cute comment at the end about “Father Earth” means Emma believes just changing a noun means we’ll totally stop polluting. That’s dumb and you should feel dumb.
2. ACTUALLY there’s a ton of evidence to support the idea that people react differently to gendered language and anthropomorphism. So she’s not even entirely wrong, but again, she’s not actually implying this one thing would fix the environment. At best she’s saying it would change how a patriarchal society thinks about the Earth.
3. Valerie Hudson is a brilliant academic and being Mormon does not invalidate her research or opinions OR feminism. Not every Mormon holds with every Mormon tenet, nor does being Mormon disqualify you any more than any religion filled with stupid ideas, llke Catholicism, conservative Judaism, fundamentalist Islam, or atheists who can’t shut up about atheism. Not everyone in a faith holds with all their faith’s stupid.
4. Emma Watson does not own a private jet. She famously flies commercial and owns two homes, one of which is just a flat. She has flown on private jets owned by others before. Her large personal carbon footprint is a problem, but she gives liberally to credible environmentalist causes to offset it (more than a lot of people on that list). Note that ANY personal carbon footprint is teeny tiny compared to those of businesses who routinely break regulations to pollute so hard you’d think they were Captain Planet villains. Emma’s wealthy and travels a lot, usually on flights that would have flown with or without her. She also does more to boost good causes than most famous people. And by the way, minor hypocrisies are everywhere. Martin Luther King was an adulterer. It doesn’t make him any less a hero.
5. If a man confronts another man about doing something stupid and cowardly, he’s standing up for what he believes in. If Emma Watson confronts a man about being too scared to meet privately with a woman, she’s “lecturing.” That’s some spicy sexism right there. By the by, if you’re a man who needs a babysitter to meet with a woman, you’re not a real man even by toxic macho standards.
6. Emma says she is interested in Kink culture. She never even admits to trying it herself. Just that she likes their attitude about consent. She does not advocate every teenager go buy a ballgag and find the nearest Eyes Wide Shut orgy. Unclutch them pearls.
7. All told, this interview was a great way to lure out the “Too Much Feminsim” Police. Emma is one of the most inoffensive, approachable feminists out there. Her beliefs are so reasonable and nice and mainstream only real cowards would feel challenged. Nothing she or Dr. Hudson say here is remotely controversial by any standard other than regressive ones. The idea that how we treat women influences world politics and economics, and maybe we shouldn’t abuse and exploit them as much as we do isn’t remotely radical.
I understand people just wanna drool over the pretty little leggy wizard girl. But being outspoken and progressive is the most Hermione thing about Emma. This is a great interview and a bunch of people failed at reading it.
The anon above said that he or she works at an airline Emma frequens. He or she never claimed to know every where she goes. Would also like to point out that study was from 2017. Where I'm sure that going on a world wide press tour didn't help or her travels to interview people either, but that's the only time she's been on the list. A list that comes out every year.
I remember that DailyMail article, and the study seems flawed to me. From what I could tell, it didn't even differentiate between commercial and private flights.
Also, it was a study of 10 celebrities to see their total carbon footprint. Emma ranked 10th out of the 10, as in she had the lowest of the group, even by the standard of the study.
Anonymous said..
Also, it was a study of 10 celebrities to see their total carbon footprint. Emma ranked 10th out of the 10
Where they said that there were only 10 celebrities involved in the study. It still more then most people so she should lecture others. She's not in a position to do such a thing.
Anonymous said...
''It’s a whole fascinating interview with a lot of useful points about sex, culture, and politics.''
Could you point them out, cause besides forced marriages in Malawi, this interview rather bunch of nonsense to me. That is a beauty everyone could have a diferent opinion so why you called other people dumb.
''ACTUALLY there’s a ton of evidence to support the idea that people react differently to gendered language and anthropomorphism''
Could you give any exemple?
''Emma Watson does not own a private jet. She famously flies commercial and owns two homes, one of which is just a flat. She has flown on private jets owned by others before. Her large personal carbon footprint is a problem, but she gives liberally to credible environmentalist causes to offset it (more than a lot of people on that list). Note that ANY personal carbon footprint is teeny tiny compared to those of businesses who routinely break regulations to pollute so hard you’d think they were Captain Planet villains. Emma’s wealthy and travels a lot, usually on flights that would have flown with or without her. She also does more to boost good causes than most famous people. And by the way, minor hypocrisies are everywhere. Martin Luther King was an adulterer. It doesn’t make him any less a hero.''
First of all she has at least 3 homes: London apartment, NYC apartment, Venice or Santa Monica home. Secondly we already established that she can travel as much as she wants, but she is not in the position to lecture other people about pollution and environment, because it makes her hypocrite.
''If a man confronts another man about doing something stupid and cowardly, he’s standing up for what he believes in. If Emma Watson confronts a man about being too scared to meet privately with a woman, she’s “lecturing.” That’s some spicy sexism right there. By the by, if you’re a man who needs a babysitter to meet with a woman, you’re not a real man even by toxic macho standards.''
If a man lecture another man it is stil a lecture and gender has nothing to do with it. Men doesn't want to meet with other woman alone, cause they protect themself and there were reserch about it and it became a problem, many business magazines mention it. The problem is, that is not something to laugh about and Emma who never worked in some company has zero credibility in that area.
''Emma says she is interested in Kink culture. She never even admits to trying it herself. Just that she likes their attitude about consent. She does not advocate every teenager go buy a ballgag and find the nearest Eyes Wide Shut orgy. Unclutch them pearls.''
I agree with that, but it's not something that should be in teen magazine, but I blame Teen Vogue for that.
And in the end I suggest you take a few deep breaths, count to ten and chill out. Peace.
Eden, pass the popcorn. Been a while since we've had a good internet fight.
I wrote the list above.
The Carbon Footprint argument is just dumb. Even the most jet-set celebrity PALES in comparison to executives who fly constantly for work, and any individual flyer has absolutely nothing on corporate and industrial polluters.
Flying around a lot does not disqualify you from trying to raise awareness and responsibility about overall environmental issues, just like carbon footprint is only one measure of environmental impact.
This is a bit of bullshit right-wing whataboutism to try and discredit people who do way more good than harm with their message because they happen to fly a lot. And even though she flies a lot, Watson offsets with charitable giving. Which any environmental group will tell you is a legitimate way to offset your carbon footprint.
And it's only "lecturing" because it's making a point you don't like. She's perfectly within her rights to support green causes. Hopping on flights that would have taken off without her is just fine.
I must say that I fully supported Emma Heforshe campaign. When I heard her speech in 2014 I thought that is great., because finally young person, who is well know understand that men and woman should work toogether and guys can support us and our fight for equality. But now I think she became some kind of radical, full blown feminist with some crazy ideas, who goes socialist, wchich is funny, because she is a multi milionere. It just my opinion.
I'm a not a big fan of Emma's but I got to admit I do admire her activism. She's damned if she's does or says anything and she's damned if she doesn't . But she still tries to bring awareness to different issues using her platform. And introduces anybody that stumbles onto her social media to authors, doctors and others that the vast media doesn't report on very much. Even though she's well aware that everything will be criticized and people can't wait for to do or say something they can give her shit for. I highly doubt that anybody that has access to a blog doesn't have a carbon footprint or that they would agree to be studied then have their information made public. People love to complain about celebrities not using their platforms to bring attention to something. But give them shit and analyze every word when they do (keeping in mind everybody has the right to an opinion) you can't have it both ways.
I think, Emma has Charlize Theron syndrome. She is extremelyrich, high status. No guy she meets is attractive because he is beneath her, That's why she finds kink culture appealing. She can be dominated, without going againsther ideology, so sge finds harmony in it. Even thought at it's core, it's hypocritical.
"People love to complain about celebrities not using their platforms to bring attention to something."
I personally wouldnt be one of those. Im one of those people that wish they all would just sit the fuck down and shut up. Lol
Anonymous said...
''Flying around a lot does not disqualify you from trying to raise awareness and responsibility about overall environmental issues, just like carbon footprint is only one measure of environmental impact.''
No, but lecturing about it when you flaying around to have fun and constant vacation makes you hipocrite.
''Which any environmental group will tell you is a legitimate way to offset your carbon footprint.
Yeah, but it doesn't mean you didn't left it. You on the other hand can stay home and still make a donation, to offset carbon footprint and Emma could do that to.
"I understand people just wanna drool over the pretty little leggy wizard girl. But being outspoken and progressive is the most Hermione thing about Emma" idk if she realizes that having a public image so similar with Hermione (add the books she promotes) it's not good to trying to breakout the typecasting she has with her. Yeah she has done movies like BATB and Little Women but lbr she is still seen as"the girl from HP" and a goody two shoes who promotes feminism and books just like Hermione. I think it's a bit sad that she exploits the image of a fictional character instead of being her true self...she is no longer a teenager and she will turn 30 this month also if she's trying to be "edgy" talking about sex it's not working
Anonymous said...
This is a bit of bullshit right-wing whataboutism to try and discredit people who do way more good than harm with their message because they happen to fly a lot. And even though she flies a lot, Watson offsets with charitable giving. Which any environmental group will tell you is a legitimate way to offset your carbon footprint.
As the person who originally mentioned her hypocrisy, I would like to say for the record that I am a very left wing leaning person and I consider it bullshit that people like you automatically assume otherwise. Hypocrisy has no political party.
Not to take away from the good fight, but as the former Mormon who commented earlier about Valerie Hudson's Mormonism and feminism not being compatible, I want to explain why. It will be a very long post and I hope Eden allows it as I think it is relevant to the discussion and makes me wonder if Emma is aware of this or not, and if not, why not? At the very least, it will educate people about Mormonism. For background, I was born Mormon and stayed Mormon for 25 years before leaving due to their policies toward gay people and women. I served a Mormon mission. Both of my parents and my younger sister graduated from BYU where Valerie Hudson taught for 24 years. My aunt recently retired after teaching at BYU for 42 years. My father is currently Bishop over a ward(Mormon name for a congregation) at BYU. I still live in Utah and pass by BYU on my way to work everyday. Utah is not too bad, I just have to avoid discussing religion with people, including my family. I tell you this, so you know that none of this is hearsay.
In order to teach and be a student at BYU(Hudson taught there for 24 years, including during the time she wrote this book) you must be a temple recommend holding Mormon and agree to abide by the BYU honor code. Google BYU honor code if you want to read it. These things are not optional. Here is a list of the temple recommend questions:
1 Do you have faith in and a testimony of God the Eternal Father, His Son Jesus Christ, and the Holy Ghost?
2 Do you have a testimony of the Atonement of Christ and of His role as Savior and Redeemer?
3 Do you have a testimony of the restoration of the gospel in these the latter days?
4 Do you sustain the President of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints as the Prophet, Seer, and Revelator and as the only person on the earth who possesses and is authorized to exercise all priesthood keys? Do you sustain members of the First Presidency and the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles as prophets, seers, and revelators? Do you sustain the other General Authorities and local authorities of the Church?
5 Do you live the law of chastity?
6 Is there anything in your conduct relating to members of your family that is not in harmony with the teachings of the Church?
7 Do you support, affiliate with, or agree with any group or individual whose teachings or practices are contrary to or oppose those accepted by the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints?
8 Do you strive to keep the covenants you have made, to attend your sacrament and other meetings, and to keep your life in harmony with the laws and commandments of the gospel?
9 Are you honest in your dealings with your fellowmen?
10 Are you a full-tithe payer?
11 Do you keep the Word of Wisdom?
12 Do you have financial or other obligations to a former spouse or children? If yes, are you current in meeting those obligations?
13 If you have previously received your temple endowment:
Do you keep the covenants that you made in the temple?
Do you wear the garment both night and day as instructed in the endowment and in accordance with the covenant you made in the temple?
14 Have there been any sins or misdeeds in your life that should have been resolved with priesthood authorities but have not been?
15 Do you consider yourself worthy to enter the Lord's house and participate in temple ordinances?
Part 2 of Mormonism
Number 10 is important because all temple recommend holding Mormons must pay 10% of their income to the church. Most BYU professors choose to have the 10% deducted straight from their paycheck. #7 is also important because feminism goes against the teachings of the church. The Mormon church is a Patriarchy. Women have no authority. They cannot hold the priesthood and men preside over everything. The women's organization in the church is called the Relief Society. They cannot hold a meeting in the church building without at least one male priesthood holder present in the building. Being gay is not considered a sin, but acting on it is. Gay people are expected to remain celibate and never experience the joy of love. This is evil, in my opinion. We have a serious problem in Utah with a very high number of suicides among gay teens as a direct result of the teachings of the church. As I mentioned in my previous post, up until about a year and a half ago, women had to promise in the Mormon Temple Endowment ceremony to obey their husband. Valerie Hudson will have had to go through the endowment ceremony. There are hidden camera videos of it on YouTube. Creepy and culty, and, yes, I went through it. I am a recovering dumbass.
As a BYU professor, Valerie will have had to have done all these things and sit down with a male priesthood holder every year before school and answer yes or no to all those questions or she would not be allowed to teach at BYU. These things and the teachings of the Mormon church are irreconcilable with feminism. The way I see it, there are only two options:1. Valerie Hudson believes these things that cannot be reconciled with her feminism and we have a very strange case of cognitive dissonance going on with her or: 2.What I consider to be most likely-she lied in her temple recommend interviews for 24 years. Although that would be understandable, obviously it would raise serious questions about her integrity -as in she has little to none if she lied for 24 years. Regardless, she will have paid 10% of her income to the church for at least 24 years. As I said, these things are not optional to teach or be a student at BYU.
Does Emma not know these things? Did she not do research on Hudson beforehand? Does she not care? Now, none of this invalidates anything in Hudson's book. I have not read it and so will not comment on it, but regardless, there are serious problems with Hudson because she either holds beliefs that are a direct contradiction to the basic beliefs of feminism -women are not equal with men in the Mormon church, or she has very serious integrity issues.
One last thing that I would like to make clear as the person who started this with my original comment about Emma being a hypocrite. I am not going to be drawn into an argument about it. I think she is a hypocrite, others don't, but I want to be clear that just because I think she is a hypocrite, does not mean that I do not agree with the things she says. I happen to wholeheartedly agree with her on most things, including the environmental activism. I just think she is a hypocrite about it. That is all. Sorry for starting a mess, Eden. Thanks for what you do.
"That’s dumb and you should feel dumb."
"That’s some spicy sexism right there. By the by, if you’re a man who needs a babysitter to meet with a woman, you’re not a real man even by toxic macho standards."
" Unclutch them pearls."
" Her beliefs are so reasonable and nice and mainstream only real cowards would feel challenged."
"I understand people just wanna drool over the pretty little leggy wizard girl."
http://www.imagebam.com/image/e6d2b91339129086
"Watson offsets with charitable giving. Which any environmental group will tell you is a legitimate way to offset your carbon footprint."
L M A O
I think people want celebrities to bring attention to a cause, not lecture them about it, especially if it's on a subject where we know it's more "do what I say not what I do". She isn't an academics, she's an actress/celebrity (she clearly stopped any real extracuriculum activism), it's not her place to lecture. It's great that she uses her money and social media for good causes but it's all what she'd do. Imo this interview was bad (not because of "father earth" or whatever). Hopefully we'll have good news about her "professional opportunities" soon.
Funny how adamently people here claim to know her private life. No one knows how many homes Emma owns. No one knows how often she flies, we just know she flies a lot and way more than the average person. She keeps all these things very sealed off.
It is unlikely for her to own a private jet because thats expensive and I dont think she flies that much that it would make sense. She flies private tho and thats a huge polluter. Doesnt matter who owns the plane. Leo DiCaprio doesnt own a super yacht but he is constantly on them.
The gendered language has an influence but society has less empathy for men than for women. Men are disposable in war and as homeless people. Look how people react when a woman publicly hits a man. No empathy only mocking and laughing.
Also to that anon talking about men not wanting alone to be with women: Never ever call a man a coward. Thats reinforcing toxic masculinity.
Why are the comments always so toxic?
Thank you to the former Mormon for the post and I would quote just one part;
"The Mormon church is a Patriarchy. Women have no authority."
Then read again Hudson's portions of the interview.
http://www.imagebam.com/image/c16d101339155302
I read this interview, I watched her latest conversation with Rebecca Solnit and her interview for british Vogue and I think, she became a little bit more radical feminist, or better say ''one path feminist''. She had so great opportunity to advocate for more family oriented feminists ( yeah I'm talking about myself) when she played Meg in Little Women. Unfortunately she skiped all the promotion and missed a chance to give people any insides of the character she played, and then she even admit that she identifies herself with Jo (maybe that is a reason she didn't give a damn about that movie) Overall I must say I was disappointed.
I hope you all save and healthy.
Anonymous said...
''Sorry for starting a mess''
You should never apologise for voice your opinion, mate.
Oh ffs, everyone is a hypocrite if you stretch enough. Who cares?
So... I haven't been on here in a while.I'm the anon that made the sarcastic comment on the Valentine's Day post(Hi Eden) about how the comment section rarely has anything to do with the post.
That being said y'all do know that if y'all want to talk about carbon footprints and who's a hypocrite or not. You might want to look in the mirror. If you have access to a blog news flash you also have a carbon foot print (might not be the same size as Emma's) but you're right there with her. Literally everybody's a hypocrite if you strech diffrent topics far enough. What I don't get is where Emma was lecturing anyone in this whole interview. At no point in the entire interview does she tell anybody what to do. She was interviewing an author of a FEMINIST book. Therefore their conversation wasn't too feminist(that's literally the point of the book). Seriously a comment that Emma's friend made once and a yearly study(in which Emma only made the list once in 2017) is what started at the shit above. She placed either 9th or 10th place out of 10 celeberties who agreed to even be studied. Y'all act like Emma said she was some kind of saint. And preached about carbon footprints but she didn't so... I'm honestly confused as to why y'all are mad. She never once in the interview does she tell anybody what to do.
*Don't buy masks if you don't need them.Stay inside(if possible) and wash your hands.
Anonymous said...
''Oh ffs, everyone is a hypocrite if you stretch enough. Who cares?''
Some people care and thank God for that.
Noticed Emma said during the interview that;
"I've been doing therapy for years and think it's the best thing ever..."
Somehow I never saw Emma as someone who would be in/has been in therapy. She's always struck me as being rather reserved and not someone who would open up about herself, even to a professional.
(An observation not a criticism).
Never been in therapy myself I tend to self medicate with wine, chocolate and sex.
Anonymous said...
''Never been in therapy myself I tend to self medicate with wine, chocolate and sex.''
Not a bad way in my opinion. Definitely a pleasurable one.
"She's always struck me as being rather reserved and not someone who would open up about herself, even to a professional."
She's been pretty open about therapy and how it's helped her with her anxiety with fame. She also mentioned it in the Vogue interview. It's also apparently true she has ADHD, based on what I've seen.
Anonymous said...
''It's also apparently true she has ADHD, based on what I've seen''
What gives you that idea. My son have ADHD. We are going to group therapy where I meet many people with that disorder and In my opinion ( I am not an expert) she deosn't have any visible symptoms. Plus I never heard her mention that. I think is just another stupid rumor about her.
I am tired of people saying that she had anxiety. In Vogue magazine she said, she felt anxious and that's two different thing. She's shy and maybe she's introvertic but anxiety is a serious disease.
Is this really going to start again. Emma has open up about anxiety before, yet y'all still want to say she doesn't have it. How many times are we gonna have to day this. Anxiety and other mental health diseases are DIFFERENT in everyone but that DOESN'T diminish them. If she says she has or feels it then it's nobody's place to say otherwise. If she's been in therapy for years to deal with it chances are that she has it. As for the ADHD thing it's been in magazines for people with it for years. They do research and double check with the people mentioned in their articles. She's going to be 30 this year, I'm pretty she would know how to deal with it by using coping mechanisms by now.
Anonymous said...
''Emma has open up about anxiety before''
She hadn't mention anxiety once in her interviews, if so give us a source
As for the ADHD thing it's been in magazines for people with it for years
There is only one source https://www.pressreader.com/uk/ok-uk/20190402/283695480901668 when they say she has ADHD and that she istaking Ritalin but if you called that reliable source good luck to you. Everyone taking that people in her school said that or her peers, but she never said that and nobody who has at least been mention by the name.
To Anon at 11:11 PM
Emma never said she has anxiety or ADHD. If it's so well known double checked fact, maybe you should give a source. She on the other hand didn't have a problem to about her mother diabetes during HeforShe interview in 2015, but she didn't mention her mentaly disorders I agree this problems never should be diminished, but it is also not a topic for some stupid gossips.
She didn't say she has anxiety, she said she was anxious about fame. That's what I meant.
''She didn't say she has anxiety, she said she was anxious about fame. That's what I meant.''
So I wrote at 10:21 PM that anxiety and feeling anxious is two different things.
I agree with the anon about not starting this again. I don't know about y'all, but I've never met someone who is so consistently anxious to the point they need a therapist who doesn't have anxiety(to some degree). Emma herself has been quoted saying she's an extremely anxious person (sometimes without reason) since her "Potter" days. Y'all do realize that's a minimum of 10 years of being constantly anxious right? Let's say she doesnt have anxiety then she's obviously not ok. And if she does that NOBODY'S place to talk about how they perceive it. I personally have anxiety, it's not something people are usually talking about openly. As for the ADHD thing that "rumor" wasn't in some celeb/gossip magazine. It was origannly published in a medical one. Medical magazines have to fact check their articles on people before publishing them. Which means they had to reach out to there Emma's camp,her doctor or to her personally. And it's not like it's only been in one magazine it's been in a couple some dating back as early as the 2000's. Whether you think she does have anxiety or ADHD can we all agree that people's mental health is never up for discussion. I just hope she's getting better because being that anxious so that long isn't great for anybody.
I dont think the source Anon gave us at 12:06 AM, is a relible source and there is nothing more in internet about her anxiety or ADHD. It is not anybody business, but claiming that someone has mental disorders without confirmation, is just simply cruel and this kind of stuf can impact somebody life.
Many celebrities are doing therapy. It doesn't mean they have mental problems.
I don't know if she has anxiety or ADHD but I agree with the anons who are saying to drop it. Like the other anon whether she has anything or not the fact that she's been anxious to the point that needs a therapist since she was a teenager isn't ok. Doesn't matter how much y'all want to go back and forth it doesn't change that. Because it doesn't matter if she has anything(you'll just look like an asshole for not being understanding) or if she doesn't have anything (then she's obviously not ok and there's a constant trigger around her). Everybody say it with me MAKING ASSUMPTIONS ABOUT PEOPLE'S MENTAL HEALTH IS NEVER O.K.
Happy Easter Eden
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