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Emma’s Kering position is as a board member not a full time employee
Are you serious?! She is the Director of Sustainability for a Fortune 500 company and it is not a full time job? How the hell can you possibly make a company that large sustainable if you are not constantly meeting with heads of other departments and visiting production facilities, inspecting materials and checking their sources, etc., etc., etc. What an absolute farce...
Did you find a private IG account called Leo Robinton? He's been receiving followers, bio wrote about being followed by Emma Watson... Leo used to have a public account with the same name, I don't know if it's fake or not, it's weird.
Glad Trump is gone but remember Biden sniffs young girls and woman. Google it. Oh and he voted for segregation.
Emma would do well not touch the democrat party with a barge pole.
Well we do know that Leo is in Mexico with his family, but idk if she’s there with him. The only reason we know this is because someone saw on one of Leo’s friend’s IG story. They shared a picture mentioning him or whatever. Given that Emma is notoriously private about her private life and boyfriends, I think she’d have some sort of approval thing for his friends to be posting pictures of him given that people know who he is. Unless that friend was being a bit careless with their covers, she may not be there with him. I’m only assuming, but the timeline of events that have happened within the last two weeks is somewhat telling that they’re over, but remain friends (like she is with most of her exes)
I know we don’t know anything yet, but I’m not surprised if they have broken up. She never really seemed that happy with him. I’ve seen the IGs of some of their family and friends and they’re seriously the definition of liberal. Long hair, man buns, weed, spiritualism and veganism. They’re too liberal, even for me. I wouldn’t be able to stand it. I know she’s liberal too, but I think she’s more conservative than people think.
Sharing private accounts of people with no premission is against instas terms of service don't do it and dont request them either. eden would delete it anyway and it would be deserved. searching that stuff is honestly weird invasive thing to do.
yeh but even knowing all this stuff about emma is not only sad but scary at the same time.
Ah so this big news was Emma's new role in the Harry Potter tv series. Makes sense now. I wonder how they will cover her bump though?
I am bored and unmotivated today so I went through these comments and I have questions:
1. How does everyone know about and see her personal social media accounts? These comments are making this seem like common knowledge? How does one stumble on her private accounts?
2. Ughhh whooo cares if they broke up?
3. They had a couples account? Really? For real? Thats...interesting. And weird. Whatever.
4. A whole lot of you are convinced she is off trying to make babies but like what if she doesn't want to have kids? Why are we putting that on her. Maybe she's just enjoying her life outside of acting with her millions without having a kid. Not everyone in their 30's automatically wants kids.
5. I'm still stuck on these social media accounts. How much stalking does one have to do to find her personal account? I am assuming it is not under her name nor her picture and it is set to private. How are you seeing it? I also assume she doesn't friend anyone she doesn't know? How are you seeing her postings? How much extra stalking do you do to find her boyfriend and his whole family? I am not a super sleuth so this is perplexing/fascinating to me.
Wonder if Emma will be older Hermione in the new HBO HP series? or if they will just redo the books? I think HBO have the money and skill to make better versions than the film series with more time to go into detail and put in things like the quidditch world cup match that was taken out as well as other rushed parts of the story being fixed with far better cgi than what could be done 20 years ago.
I think people need to read what emma is doing for Kering, she is not director of sustainability, she is chair of the sustainably committee of a public company which is a coordination role and a board director. each of the brands has a director of sustainability who leads the teams responsible for visiting factories, checking materials etc. ensuring compliance etc. (though I doubt the director level does that in person, maybe the occasional visit). None of that is Emma’s job, Emma is a director and chair, she advises at high level, overseas and suggests improvements etc. it’s not the day to day management at all. honestly people here have no idea how large public companies work. I have no doubt she’ll be busy as she’ll want to give it her all and learn lots and be busier than the average director as she’ll also be a chair but most people of that level have multiple directorships of different companies when they aren’t the ceo, coo, cfo etc. board members don’t run things day to day unless they also have separate roles. Many people have 5/6 directorships at the same time once they are experienced at that level, and these are for fixed periods. Emma’s will probably be 2/3 years. She won’t be an office based worker either, she’ll be mostly remote. Board members aren’t there unless they’re in meetings and all of those will be virtual right now anyway. She won’t have a permanent desk in the London office.
Rumour on the HBO stuff is that it’s another spinoff like fantastic beats, it’s not with Harry, Hermione et al. They’ll save that for when they will undoubtedly do the cursed child in another few years
Nobody should be sharing account names on here it would be bang out of order
In other words, Emma's new job is to get paid a lot of money to pretend to oversee something she knows nothing about, while others do the real work, so Kering can use her name and image to make money. I still have to agree with the person that said it is a farce.
Oh, come on. You know the 30 year old actress who has never had a real job in her life is more than qualified to be telling the people that have been working at Kering hands on for years in the Sustainability Department how to do their job better...
she won’t be inspecting materials unless she actually wants to and isn’t a labour rights lawyer. The brands will have those. Directors are hired for a short period of time as they bring a view to something that the other senior members or board don’t currently have, that’s their function. She’s their target customer (and also also some knowledge of production), she’s worked with and been styled by brands across the industry, she’d have contacts everywhere, what she has seen other brands she’s worked with doing, how her stylists have audited them etc. She’ll be lobbying and putting pressure on the brands and organizing the committee so that one brands good ideas are used in others etc. and working with people to suggest changes. She’ll also set goals and targets. She’ll get stuck in I’m sure but as I said directors are brought in for blind spots, they obviously think she adds something but in terms of time spent this will be as time consuming as she wants it to be. Of course it will be to some extent anyway, she’s also a committee chair and she tends to go all in, but she can do other things alongside it and I’m sure will be. She’ll still involved in numerous charities including the UN, and is still a fellow at LMH. She’ll want to certainly spend time on this and impress in the beginning but once she gets comfortable a short film role wouldn’t be completely out of the question. And even if it’s not the role will be two years or so.
Stop trying to convince yourself she is qualified. She is not and everyone knows it. It is celebrity privilege and Kering using her name and image to bring attention to their company. Nothing more.
You don’t really get qualifications for directorships though even when you aren’t a celebrity. Nobody on the board will be fully “qualified” to be in their position. You’re hired for that for a view or function. She’s been hired for lots of reasons, she’s not expected to run the brands day to day sustainability practices, she’s there to give her viewpoint. Nobody is pretending being a celebrity, bringing attention etc isn’t a reason, it just won’t be the only one. As above said she’s their target customer, she’s modelled, she has worked with every fashion designer going including competitors including to make dresses, she’ll know lots of stuff and people that the 50 year old finance guy on the board won’t. They think she’ll add value, she probably will, she already has with the attention it’s likely brought them.
Most on the board with her will have had luck and privilege to get them there. If you look at the boards of public companies it’s the same people on those boards, like someone said people often hold numerous ones. Some people will have worked in the industry for 40 years but lots will be good at being directors and have been from a young age as their father owned a company. Emma won’t stand out massively in a lot of that world. At least she’ll know what she likes to buy.
People on those boards have had real jobs in related fields and have been working in related fields for years and have degrees in their field. They sure as hell are not 30 year old actresses with an English Literature degree that have never held a real job before in their life. Stop being so naive.
Some of them yes, some not so much... lots of boards are filled with relatives...
As said you hire people for viewpoints, if everyone had the same experience same qualifications in the same industry it doesn’t work. They clearly think she adds something.
I’d put my hat in the ring that one heck of a lot of boards have English lit/history/biology etc. Ivy League degrees!!
Kering had to get her past the shareholders, if they were fine to have her salary come out of their dividends they obviously think she will add more than she’s taking. As people said they know who she is and she’s been hired for what she brings and knows, if they wanted someone with 30 years sustainability experience they’d have hired them, but they have several of them actually running the brands. Emma’s in a short term advisory role.
An English Literature degree does not qualify you to be on a board overseeing sustainability of a clothing brand. That would be a business degree. A job in publishing, fine, but not overseeing sustainability. Look, I don't care if she secretly got a PHD in every field that exists, nobody gets a job on the board of a Fortune 500 company as their first ever real job unless some sort of privilege is involved, whether nepotism, or in this case, celebrity privilege. It is wrong and all the more strange considering just a couple weeks before the job was announced, Emma was posting things against white and celebrity privilege. Emma Watson lives in a fantasy land. Maybe she can go visit her company's slave labor factories in Asia, or visit the disgusting farms where they cage animals in filthy conditions and watch them murder the animals to turn them into coats and purses. Maybe then she will see the reality of the monsters she works with and represents.
Well if they are over, then I seriously have no idea when it comes to her love life. Like don’t get me wrong, she can do whatever she wants, but if I thought Mack was gonna be end game, then I for sure thought Leo was too, considering how fast she was moving with him (meeting her parents and family, having the couple account, and news outlets describing him as a “keeper”). He wasn’t her best looking bf, (I was relooking at the pictures from V-Day; im scarred for life for seeing him shirtless) but he seemed like a good match. Maybe he’s another Johnny Simmons and was pressuring her to permanently move to the states to be with him.
Apparently the two people who are following their couple account are his parents, and that’s it. Maybe Leo and Emma gave them their account? I’m not seeing a new one either, so I think they’re done, but remain friends.
Emma often gets papped with her BF on Valentine's day though there is a pandemic we know she still travels and goes to restaurants and stuff that are open. I think if we dont see her and Leo out that day there might be something to the break up rumours.
I think they are done, but even if they are not, I doubt they will be together for Valentine's Day. He is in Mexico and she is in England and they will have a heck of a time trying to get around the Covid restrictions that are in place until February 15th. She is a man-eating tigress. This is like the 5th relationship she has had that has lasted at least a year and she is only 30. If I were a guy, I would avoid her like the plague.
"She is a man-eating tigress. This is like the 5th relationship she has had that has lasted at least a year and she is only 30."
http://www.imagebam.com/image/d7f7951367948145
I've told you weeks ago what little bird told me and you didn't want to believe...
''I've told you weeks ago what little bird told me and you didn't want to believe''
When did they break up? Do you know the details?
It was kinda obvious they were done if you saw tweets about people saying they saw Emma Watson arguing with some dude(we can guess its leo) while at a cafe around the subject of moving to US full time.
It just seems odd that they would not have already had that discussion at some point during the relationship given they had been dating over a year. Maybe they had and Leo brought it up again and she decided that was enough. Who knows.
“Even if it’s him doing it” I think the only account they ever actually shared together was the couple one. I wouldn’t give my partner access to my own private account. That one is hers and one she’s been using for years, but I don’t think Leo was using that one too.
Given that there was a article 4 days ago (by an albeit obscure website) that’s available on google news that says they have an Instagram together and has the old photo with them in overalls, they might have removed the followers. The timing is about right. If they did it for this reason though it’s weird to leave the posts/account up.
The problem is that people have known about the shared Instagram since last March, long before that article and everyone knows Emma has her own private Instagram. It doesn't really matter that people know about it anyway because you cannot access it without permission and a password. Besides, they have not been using it for months and have been losing followers for a long time before the last few days. And as was said, you wouldn't leave it active and just remove the followers. Sadly, it looks like a break-up. Hopefully one day Emma can find someone and if not, as long as she is happy, that is all that counts.
Did Eden delete any comments because yesterday we had plenty of new ones coming in and now their are hardly any?.
Nope. People probably just said everything they had to say. It happens that there are no comments for hours or a few days and then a new wave arrives though.
A question I wanted to ask long time ago but always forgot...
About appointing Emma as visiting fellow at Lady Margaret Hall, Oxford University.
I've read about the position and it's for people with Professor degree or PhD with habilitation at least.
Appointing as visiting fellow someone with PhD is a rare exception.
As far as I'm concerned Emma has M.A. degree.
Did I miss something?
I found this on the LMH webpage. Apparently, they occasionally appoint non-academic people.
LMH is delighted to announce the appointment of nine new Visiting Fellows for a three year term (2019-22), and the appointment of Emma Watson as an Associate Fellow.
The Visiting Fellows are people drawn from a variety of backgrounds, callings and professions who will form a bridge between LMH’s academic community and the worlds they inhabit and represent. We are most grateful to our previous Visiting Fellows (2016-19) who contributed so much insight, knowledge and understanding within their specialist fields and culturally enhanced the life of the College.
As an Associate Fellow, Emma Watson, will continue her valuable work with the College with particular emphasis on promoting gender equality and women’s rights. Emma was previously an LMH Visiting Fellow (2016-19).
The idea of having non-academic visiting fellows at an Oxford College is not entirely new. Lord Nuffield, in founding his own College, wanted people drawn from government, politics, civil service and other institutions to play a role in the life of Nuffield College.
Names were canvassed from LMH’s governing body, of people of distinction whom we admired and whom we felt could add to the intellectual and cultural life of LMH. Those appointed span subject areas including: environment, sport, history, the performing arts, literature, feminism, law and public service.
Alan Rusbridger, Principal of LMH, said: “We welcome all our new Visiting Fellows and Emma Watson who has now been appointed an Associate Fellow. We look forward to them contributing to the life of LMH and to debate, perform, challenge and otherwise engage with the fellows, tutors, staff and students.
“We can learn much from them and we hope they treasure their time with us.”
Thanks for your very comprehensive reply. Appreciated!
You are welcome. No problem.
"As far as I'm concerned Emma has M.A. degree."
Actually a Bachelor's degree, but that allied with essentially no work experience, has been parlayed into a visiting fellowship at Oxford and a board position at a company with turnover of close to 10 billion euros.
To summarize the statement: Sometimes it is good to have famous people associated with the College whether they have the academic qualifications or not because it brings prestige to the school. The same as it is having a famous person on the board at Kering whether she has the qualifications or not. Dare I say it? More white privilege. There, I said it.
Going back to the 'main topic' of the thread: I don't get the argument she might not want to live with him in the US.
In the past she's been living over there for few years (with her previous boyfriends). She even has a house there (most likely in Venice, CA): not sure if it's her property or she was renting.
However it doesn't convince me, cos for the last couple of years she's been living most of her time on the other side of ocean...
The break up had nothing to do with living in the USA.
She has told close friends she got fed up with him shedding hair everywhere.
And if you think his beard and bun look unkempt, apparently the lack of grooming, erm, down below, is far far worse.
I don't think Emma has ever actually lived with any of her boyfriends. She does spend a lot of time in the States and sees her boyfriends when there if they are from the USA, but she never lived with them. Maybe Leo meant this as moving in together and taking the relationship to the next step and she did not want to. We may never really know.
Maybe Leo is unwilling to move to England for some reason and Emma is unwilling to live permanently in the USA. They had been together long enough where it was time to decide if it would remain a long distance relationship or something else and maybe neither one is willing to make the move the other wants and they called it quits.
I thought she's been living with Mack for nearly 2 years in San Francisco...
She never lived with Mack. That was one of the busiest couple of years of Emma's life and they hardly saw each other and that is one of the reasons they broke it off. The long distance relationship was too much.
Emma split her time in London and New York(mostly London) when with Mack.
I think Emma and Leo spent enough time together during Covid that they saw what it would be like if they lived together and decided they don't like each other like that. Who knows. One guess is as good as any.
Why am I not able to see the new comments?
Why do you all assume they broke up? Just because she removed followers? Or believe the rumors? None of us know the truth, so don't speculate without solid evidence.
I've read almost all your theories and I felt the need to tell you you're all wrong. Once again I'm gonna feed you a bit wit the info my beautiful little bird brings to me. The "break up" had nothing to do with anything you mention and you shouldn't take it as something definitive. That's all I can tell.
Well, if you are the same person who's little bird told you Emma and Leo are "over," that sounds pretty definitive. My guess is that you are just making up shit like everyone else.
You can guess whatever you want, like everyone else. Take it or leave it and just be happy!! ;)
Maybe they have taken time separated? Because it doesn't make sense for you to say that they have broken up, but that it doesn't have to be definitive, if they have eliminated the followers, that seems definitive.
Being stuck together during covid all the time was maybe too much for them as other anon said. I have seen people in loving relationships for years who are friends of mine suddenly end everything this past year when they basically saw no one else for all of 2020. People need their own space sometimes and it can make you just start to dislike someone you thought you liked when forced together.
To the person who pretends to know something more than anyone else here.
I don't know if you really are some kind of insider; I really don't know why you're trying to play with us (potentially: fooling us). Does it make your happy? Do you feel kinda "in charge" here? Don't get the reason of keeping it in secret (if you're carrying something which is really true and not other portion of rumors...). If there is really some news coming, sooner or later people will learn it. Not sure what is then your point of throwing all those breadcrumbs now...
It's my last reply to your posts, I'm not going to feed the troll (that you're for me now).
If it makes you all that angry, I'll stop posting about it. I really don't want to disturb the comments section, it was never my intention. Keep your discussion going from now on, I'm off.
I wouldl like to keep writing about what you know, while you are polite!
Does anyone know when was this taken??
https://www.instagram.com/p/CKmmD_Fgz7A/?igshid=1nelswdikhu1y
If they did breakup, I wonder why he’s not opening up his accounts. His mom’s is still private too. Maybe they don’t want to get bombarded by people blowing up their DMs and comments asking about the relationship.
How some of you know he's now in Mexico with his family and she stays in the UK?
No paps photos, no news in tabloids, nothing.
How you know that?
People like Matt Janney and Brendan Iribe never opened back up their Instagrams. The only people that have are people that use it for work like Brendan wallace (and he took months to open it up), and Mack Knight who is interested in becoming a travel writer and photographer (he had a conde neste profile) so he only opened his when the breakup became public. Leo may not ever open his, and his mum now has a public one for her art so she has no reason to. Some people like private Instagrams, my one is private.
Because we’re good sleuths and people put things online and social media.
The photo looks B&B days from her hair.
“Maybe them being constantly together all the time because of lockdown put a strain on their relationship; they saw what it’d be like to be together, and it’s not what they want.” Isn’t that what marriage is, though? Living and being with your partner? If that what she struggles with (the thought of being with someone forever), I don’t blame her and am similar.
"Does anyone know when was this taken??
https://www.instagram.com/p/CKmmD_Fgz7A/?igshid=1nelswdikhu1y"
June 2015 https://www.emmawatson-updates.com/2015/06/emma-watson-departing-from-florence.html
Thanks Eden!
What are all the comments people were seeing on Twitter that Emma and Leo were arguing about moving to the states hence the reason why they probably broke up? No ones really implying that’s the reason and are still Indecisive of what’s really going on. Idk what caused the break up, but it’s pretty definitive that it happened. Not only because they lost pretty much all of their followers, but they probably would have posted if they were together in Mexico, and their followers/following numbers haven’t changed since early November. I know there’s no définit e proof, but I think it’s enough to come to the conclusion that they’re done.
She has two new posts on Instagram. She's been more active lately. Maybe she is using her private Instagram account for couple things instead of the one they have in common.
It is more likely that they are no longer a couple and that is why both Emma and Leo are using their own Instagrams again and the couples one is no longer in use. Neither one had been using their own very often and most of the activity had been on the couples one for months and now it is the exact opposite. Sadly, it points to a break-up.
Eden what do you have to say about all these things? Do you have any news?
'mindless rumours due to boredom and lack of actual news about Emma' - Eden probably :p
"Eden what do you have to say about all these things? Do you have any news?"
"'mindless rumours due to boredom and lack of actual news about Emma' - Eden probably :p"
Would you mind not reading my mind? How invasive! XD But yeah, before reading your comment I was going to say "No. Care. Whatsoever." And no news unfortunately apart from Emma having close to perfect feet or something. Wonderful. May everyone have a much more exciting day than the fandom's.
There is no way they would keep their Instagram couple account on if they broke up. And with all of their posts not deleted. It must be something else, but I really doubt we'll ever learn.
Enough people know the account exists and she likes to be private about her break ups. If they were to delete it, then it’d be sure that they broke up, and she doesn’t want people to know. It was their way of keeping family and friends in the loop during lockdown and were still in lockdown and their family/friends come from other sides of the world. If they stopped using it, and all of their followers were deleted, it means that they’re done, but we’re amicable about it. Like she is with most of her bfs.
Enough people know about it that if they took it down a breakup would be the obvious conclusion and I am sure they both want privacy. It is the same reason I doubt Leo will ever open a public Instagram in the near future. He would get too many questions regarding Emma. Leo's parents are the only remaining followers on the couples Instagram. Obviously something happened, but who knows what. Maybe they are still friends and their family's are still friends and they leave the posts to make it still look active and to remember what happened during that time.
I think someone who said some big news is coming, might be right. Only because I really believe in people's good intentions (don't get the whole haters' concept, just be mean for sake to be mean...).
But I agree with the Anon above: it's just childish to play with us the "I know but won;t tell you" game. Just pathetic. No idea what this person is looking for on this forum.
You and I must be long lost twins, E. We thought of exactly the same thing.
They probably broke up and told everyone that followed it and that is why the followers are gone because there is nothing to follow any longer. They leave it up for the sake of protecting privacy regarding the likely break up.
Eden, why does the number of comments increase continuously when I do not see any new comments? 282 comments, have the last 80 wandered into DarkNet? *??*
Eden, I'm sorry, I did not see your EDIT but have been wondering for days :-D, but now I did see.
"she's a man-eating tigress" :D
https://youtu.be/yRYFKcMa_Ek
"Oh oh here she comes. Watch her boy, she'll chew you up" :-D :-D Enjoy.
Leo's dad is not one of the remaining followers, he was removed. Someone said that Leo's mom is still following, I don't know if it's true. The couples account has been found a few months ago, but it was reported by a gossip media recently. If she really doesn't want people to know about the breakup, there's no need to remove the followers, which would still expose the breakup. I don't think she wants to use the account anymore, they contact their family and friends through other ways. Her private account became active after not using the couples account.
Followers on Instagram can remove themselves. Just because the followers went down does not mean Emma or Leo removed them. I hate to say it, but the most likely scenario is that followers removed themselves after hearing the news. Just because people know about it is no reason to go inactive on it because, for one, people have known about it since last March and, two, you can't get into it without being invited and getting the password. No prying media or fans can get into it or see it.
The followers were practically all gone and the account had not been used for a long time before that gossip mag reported it. That had nothing to do with it.
Am I the only one that thought the photos of them on November 18th looked kind of like a bittersweet goodbye? Emma looked sad and there was no kiss or holding hands, just Leo putting his hands on her shoulders in a brotherly like way assuring her he would be ok or something like that. I don't know. Maybe I'm reading too much into it, but they did not look like girlfriend/ boyfriend.
I know they were wearing a mask, but their facial expressions, especially hers, reminded me of the last time she and Knight were spotted together before they broke up. They were chatting, but not looking very “we’ve been dating for over a year and are really happy and comfortable with each other” affectionate. I also thought they looked rather disant when they were sitting on that bench. I know they were talking, but you’d think they’d be sitting closer and more comfortable given the duration of the relationship. People also claim on Twitter that they saw Emma “arguing with someone” at a bakery. Idk if it was the same time as their coffee date, but I’m assuming the man was Leo.
We might learn what's happened in the next couple of weeks/months when some other paps pics (her alone?) surface.
Till then: pure speculations.
But the most definitive 'proof' of their breakup would be pics of her with another lad.
''People also claim on Twitter that they saw Emma “arguing with someone” at a bakery.''
When did this happen? Have you seen these tweets? Or the rumors you saw?
I am in London and the situation is - due to lockdown - unfortunately is kinda bad as in many other countries sadly. Unfortunately the 8th March event at the Royal Albert Hall in London has been postponed. It has been planned by the Wow Foundation that is partnering with Emma's project with Reni Eddo Lodge and Rebecca Solnit (London Tube Map). So I have just discovered that also the London Tube Map release has been postponed and it will be published on August and not March anymore, apparently? https://www.haymarketbooks.org/books/1661-city-of-women-london
Take care and stay safe everyone!
There were tweet from a waitress in a cafe who served Emma a sausage roll but later in the thread mentioned she was arguing with some guy and it was kinda awkward to be working during it. I tried to find the tweets again but I think the account owner deleted them after people showed up to call her a liar and ask for pics of Emma in her cafe
I found the tweet, which was posted just before Christmas last year. It's normal for couples to argue with each other, but it does seem awkward to argue in a cafe...I wonder what happened between them that led to the argument.
We dont know for sure she was with Leo in the cafe somebody random could have been pestering her to sign something or take a selfie and she got mad.
Earlier in this thread people were saying that the waitress at the cafe said they were arguing about moving to America.
To the anon above that said people needed to get approved to follow their couple account - yes and no. Yes, it’s private, and how private accounts work is that instead of someone automatically following you and seeing your posts, the account user gets to see who it is, and has to approve. There’s also situations where hackers can hack into private accounts easily, but in their case, they were not hacked because someone earlier said that if it were a hack, the posts would be deleted, not the followers. So no one hacked the account. They left themselves.
"It's normal for couples to argue with each other, but it does seem awkward to argue in a cafe...I wonder what happened between them that led to the argument."
I would have thought it was obvious;
"There were tweet from a waitress in a cafe who served Emma a sausage roll.."
Ketchup/sauce on the sausage, yes or no.
Actually the 8th leading cause of all breakups.
Yes, with private accounts, you have to request to be a follower and be approved and then be given a password. My understanding is that Emma constantly changed the password so it could not be hacked.
There’s no password for a walk riveted IG account. I think people are getting confused with the blog they had at the start of lockdown, that was supposed to be passworded. With IG someone requests to follow you, you then either approve them, reject them or leave it, they can only see your pics etc. when you approve. I only approve people I know and like to follow my IG. If I don’t know them I reject and if I don’t really like/know them well I leave the request open (so they still can’t see but I haven’t said no).
Private somehow changed to walk riveted by auto correct!
Er, I have a private Instagram there’s no password for followers, you just approve requests or not. The password is for your own access to the account to post stuff (if you want to - that’s optional) which reduces of the chance of people pretending to be you etc. posting and messaging your followers. There’s no password to enter for followers to see your pics... She has a private account with an obscure name, that’s about as much security as you can have with Instagram.
"We dont know for sure she was with Leo in the cafe somebody random could have been pestering her to sign something or take a selfie and she got mad. "
I think that's likely she doesn't like fans approaching her and has said not to do it along time ago and to stop asking for selfies fans have called her rude for asking to be left alone when they ran into her but its like you were told to stop why did you expect anything else?
Emma's own personal private IG account is posting a lot more since the couples one lost all its followers it's likely she just started using it to update family and friends now after that gossip article exposed the other account.
if they had decided to use their accounts because a newspaper got their couple account, emma would follow leo's family on her own account, but it has not happened, his brothers don't follow her to see her photos. that's strange. Besides, from my point of view, it was not necessary to erase all their follows if they does not want to use more. I think this sounds a "break up"
Thank you to those who clarified that you do not have to enter a password to get on an Instagram page. That must have been the blog that I remembered being mentioned last year when lockdown all started. I have no Instagram myself, so I did not understand. Thanks.
With all the theories, I'm surprised no one mentioned yet that maybe someone tried to hack the accounts of those following the couple accounts to have access to it and that's why people might have unfollowed. Or maybe someone did succeed to hack and had access and Emma or Leo decided to delete almost everyone in their followers list.
Also, I'd like to thank every one of you for not mentioning the name of any of the accounts. I'm always very stressed out when I check the comments but always end up very pleasantly surprised. So thank you very much :D
"Unfortunately the 8th March event at the Royal Albert Hall in London has been postponed. It has been planned by the Wow Foundation that is partnering with Emma's project with Reni Eddo Lodge and Rebecca Solnit (London Tube Map). So I have just discovered that also the London Tube Map release has been postponed and it will be published on August and not March anymore, apparently? https://www.haymarketbooks.org/books/1661-city-of-women-london"
Thank you Fp :)
"Private somehow changed to walk riveted by auto correct!"
Literally laughed out loud XD Gotta love auto correct.
The problem with the getting hacked theory is that the account is still up and they have removed none of the posts. They are still all there for anyone that hacked it to see and they lost all of the followers well before the recent little magazine article that made the account more widely known. If it got hacked, you would shut it down and remove all of the posts.
Yeah, they would have shut it down if it got hacked. He is in Mexico, she is not. Or at least he was. I don't know if he still is. Last year around this time she was in Mexico(perhaps with him at his family's vacation home) and she is not this year. I have to agree that a breakup is most likely.
If someone hacked it, they would have put pics all over and we have not seen anything.
I don't think you can see the names of the accounts of the people following a private account unless you are also a follower yourself, so there would be no way to know who was following the account unless you were as well, so to hack one of her followers really would not be possible unless you just happened to know they were following it. I think the main problem is that the account is still active and has all the posts. If there was any worry of a hack, Emma would have deleted it all right away.
a hacked doesn't make sense because they would have deleted the account or deleted their photos. If the reason is that someone has wanted to hack into a family account to see her photos, the normal thing emma / leo would have deleted all of her followers and there are still two.
and it does not make sense they had decided to user their own account to upload photos together and keep informed if leo's family do not follow emma on her private account (besides the couple account is inactive from nov)
I've just learnt there are some dodgy apps that allow you to see the content of the IG private accounts (in theory at least; no idea how it works in reality).
This is of course very sneaky, non-ethical and illegal way.
No idea how such providers work and if they don't implant any malware on your machine once you install their apps.
I never would do such a thing, but maybe some of the people who're posting on the forum have already tried it; that's they were able to see the followers of their private account; as someone said above: you're not able to see who's following a private account unless you're one of them.
And on some private note: I don't know why, but I think they didn't split.
No 'proofs' though, only a gut feeling.
I think what it all comes down to though is that regardless of apps to see private content or hacks or whatever, the account is still up with all the posts. The account would have been deleted and all the posts removed if there was a worry about unauthorized access. That is just common sense.
come on! you don't need any program to know this.
you can know followers in a private profile without following the account. You only have to check in the public profiles. I mean, do you want to know if leo's sister follow emma? she has a public account, then search the emma's nick on her followers, that's all.
Leo's sister is following over 2,5k accounts.
You'd need to review all of them to know if Emma's account or the couple one is among them.
It's very time-consuming and it's only one person you'd know for sure is following them.
So, you still cannot say who are remaining people following.
LOL obvious, you cannot know all accounts who follow emma, however you can know some accounts if you know the family or friends and if their profiles are public.
Leo's sister has 11,4 followers and I can see the emma's nick perfectly and pretty fast, Instagram gives you the option to search a nick among followers, so you have to search into her sister's followers and write emma's nick, and you will know if her sister is one of the lucky ones followed by Emma or not.
Some of you have too much time on your hands. It is kind of stalkerish and creepy...
You have too much time to keep commenting on this site criticizing others...
Stalkerish & creepy? Yeah...
If someone would share something new & private about Emma, you'd be the very first one to read it.
What you're doing on this page?
You're good at one thing at least: being a hypocrite.
A bit touchy, huh? There is a big difference between being a fan of Emma and following a blog about her and checking all her possible friends and family on Instagram to see who is following and followed and by whom and all that stuff and trying to find out about her private Instagram and who her friends are, etc. A big difference...
I just told you what you wanted to know, how fans (smart fans, from my point of view) know who Emma's followers are. That's the only way. It's fun that you see this creepy considering that your option was a software to know all the followers. At least that way people use doesn't hurt anyone.
I don't know who you think you are having a discussion with, but the being creepy post was my first post on this thread. I said nothing about software or anything else for that matter.
You didn't touch me at all.
I'm even not her fan. She's my type only.
And don't judge others with your own dodgy criteria.
It seems you'd do whatever to peep into her private matters. Not me. Byeeeee.
by the way, I have not said that I dedicate myself to looking for their friends on instagram and check their followers, I have said that this is the way to do it. No fan can know all theirs followers, that's impossible.
Leo was in Mexico two weeks ago, and I said his friend (a beautiful lady) had posted an IG story, they seemed to be in the cannabis business together. But I think Emma was with him , Leo took Emma to visit this friend around the same time last year, she also posted an IG story about Leo at that time.
Emma was not in Mexico this year. I can't prove it without revealing how I know, so take it for what it is worth.
To the last Anon: thanks for your update. Appreciated.
I don't have to know your source :-P
The news itself suffices ;-)
I’m not trying to be a pessimist here, I’m being a realist. To the few people who think they’re still together - unfortunately, you’re just grasping at straws at this point. The events that have happened in the last couple weeks, and previous observations of paps (Nov. 18) also contribute to all of our guessing and the most likely thing is that they’re not a couple anymore, sadly, but are still friends.
I apologize for deleting the last couple of comments but let's only talk about the accounts that are already widely known in the fandom please :)
Some people are so hypocrite pretending to be worried about Emma's privacy when they used to participate on every single Pottershot's private forum where they always shared a lot of REALLY private things about Emma (Facebook accounts, e-mails, etc.). I think they just don't want more people to know about these things in order to keep their "privilege" of being the ones who sniff around her circle. It's not really her privacy what concerns them. Sooooo hypocrite... And you know who you are...
To the last Anon: I couldn't agree with you more.
Although I don't know any other fandom sites about Emma (this is the only one I'm following; I'm not her fan, I think she's less than a mediocre actress; but she's my type though), including the ones where some people reveal her private details; I believe such pages and people exist and some of them are also active on this site.
Yeah, it definitely makes sense: Emma's privacy above all... Give me a break!
A question to those people mentioned above: what you're doing on this site then?
Because you're interested in Emma's acting career (as someone above said). Hahahahaha! A good joke! If you'd like to know what Emma is up to, stick to the IMDb where not only her full filmography, but also news and rumors about her potential upcoming projects are to find.
Such pages like this one (although the Admin doesn't allow any private "private excursions") has one purpose only: Emma as a private person. Full stop.
Those who're shouting the loudest about her privacy are those who're sniffing the most.
"Emma was not in Mexico this year. I can't prove it without revealing how I know, so take it for what it is worth."
Oh, here's your medal for protecting Emma's privacy, after actually having invaded it, of course...
"I apologize for deleting the last couple of comments but let's only talk about the accounts that are already widely known in the fandom please :)"
Another medal over here to the blog's owner who spends a lot of time invading Emma's privacy but also pretends to worry about it.
Sometimes I think some of the people on here actually know Emma or know friends of hers and know some stuff without invading her privacy ( accounts and things) and just get a kick out of throwing hints around when in reality they know exactly what is going on. They post as anonymous of course, but I really think some people know and like to play games to feel special about it.
You don't have to hack her private accounts to invade her privacy. You can do exactly what mentioned above: throwing some breadcrumbs around if you have a reliable source you can rely on (being one of her far circle colleague or knowing someone who knows Emma), that is invading her privacy as well!
I'm checking the page to learn Emma's private details and I freely admit it.
Those who deny it are the the most hypocritical creatures.
I imagine those will post their lines soon trying to tell their stories completely upside down.
A message for them: most folks on this forum are not that naïve and gullible as you think. Your tries might end up in vain.
Let the hypocrite tournament begin!
"Another medal over here to the blog's owner who spends a lot of time invading Emma's privacy but also pretends to worry about it. !"
Any proof eden does this? no? as you were anon
Eden: Actively deleting invasive comments and links
Anon: 'how dare you invade Emma's eden privacy!'
lol what??
"Eden: Actively deleting invasive comments and links."
That's precisely the pretending part of it. You should learn how to read and interepret a sentence.
"Any proof eden does this? no? as you were anon"
I did use to invade her privacy and post her private photos years ago to be honest. People change and don't want others to make the same mistakes they've made, hooray!
"That's precisely the pretending part of it. You should learn how to read and interepret a sentence."
now say it without crying anon
I did use to invade her privacy and post her private photos years ago to be honest. People change and don't want others to make the same mistakes they've made, - well glad you delete stuff that goes too far and dont post anything like that any more people are sometimes dumb when they are young too few grow enough to admit these mistakes.
"precisely the pretending part of it"
actually deleting stuff is 'pretending?' i don't understand your thinking.
Let me make something clear: EVERYONE who checks out this site is looking for private details about Emma. Whether he/she admits it or not. They don't seek the news about her professional projects that is to find anywhere else.
Someone who tells is good that some of private stuff has been removed from this page either read the news/saw the pictures (and maybe saved them as well) already or found them on other fandom sites.
There are no folks here who are not interested in Emma's private life.
Some of them are honest enough to admit it, some other ones: are lying like hell.
EVERYONE who checks out this site is looking for private details about Emma.
Nah I come here to talk with other Emma fans as its the only active blog for the fandom that isnt hater driven tbh don't put your reasons for being here on everyone else.
I admit i will check this blog to find out if Emma was seen out and about these days as she is so quiet I like to know if she is alive lol but i dont go looking for anything else like her personal accounts and eden does a good job removing anything actually private like that so its really not a good place to search for anything like this.
I feel like one of the most important thing to have for a celebrity you admire is to respect their privacy. I can’t imagine being a part of a huge movie franchise like HP for years, and knowing the fact that random people know even the littlest details about you. Emma has even said that it frightened her, and I don’t blame her! Fans’ obsession over her goes as far back as when she was a teen. In interviews she has said being a celebrity is very difficult and scary. Their obsession even got to the point where they knew where her parents worked and what their phone numbers were, where they lived, etc. Her family must’ve been terrified as well, but they handled it very professionally and calmly I think.
Have a feeling Emma will be seen with a new fella around Valentine's day..though covid has shut everything down mostly I'm sure she will be seen out somewhere soon.
That would be a quick bounce back if they did breakup, especially for a relationship that lasted over a year, but some people move on quicker than others.
Emma seems to move on fast tbh there is always a new dude soon after the old one for the last 5 years that kinda make it look like she is into open relationships, maybe? i think her 'self-partnered' term also alluded to her not really being invested in traditional dating or whatever...like she was already with leo when she said she was self partnered if I recall. I'm wondering what Leo was thinking when he heard that phrase trending lol
I heard that Vogue interview took place in September before she was dating Leo. They do them that far in advance. It seems like it takes her longer to move on from her longer relationships, though. It was almost a year after Matt Janney before she was first seen with Mack and we later found out that her and Mack broke up in the middle of 2017 and it wasn't until February of the next year that she was seen with Chord, so who knows. Maybe she went on dates between then.
It may sound a bit misleading, but her phrasing “self-partnered” may have been a way of describing herself as
“Independent”. Meaning, she’s dating men, but she won’t let them control her life or allow herself to be subservient to them. Idk, she has also said that she’s fascinated by kink culture, whatever the heck that is.
There might be something to the open relationships idea. I think she is probably upfront with guys that she is into that and they accept it at first thinking they can handle this kind of set up but soon learn they cantand its why things seem too rarely last even a year or year and half with most her BFs?
she’s fascinated by kink culture, whatever the heck that is.
I think she was saying she admires how people into that culture are so trusting with each other and how strong their relationships must be to have that level of trust.... but it was pretty random to bring up like that from nowhere in the interview lmao
"I did use to invade her privacy and post her private photos years ago to be honest. People change and don't want others to make the same mistakes they've made, hooray!"
How did you find about her personal IG?? How did you find about the couples account?? Even if you just found them by "accident" that's also invading her privacy. And the same thing with the many other details you know about her inner circle. So you just didn't stop invading her privacy, you just stopped sharing it. That doesn't make you any better. And it's not anything against you, please don't get me wrong but I just can't stand hypocrisy.
Pretty sure people here only heard of those accounts through people mentioning them in comments doubt Eden went looking for it either, like who can even waste so much time digging through thousands of followers like that on IG?? lol
I have to agree with others who earlier were saying that she is probably far more conservative than we think. She called her breakup with Janney "horrendous" in an interview. That doesn't sound like someone in an open relationship. On top of that, when she has been dating someone-Janney, Mack, Chord, Leo, etc., she is never pictured with another guy other than them until they breakup. That is not an open relationship. In 2019 from like June to August she was pictured with a bunch of guys, but maybe they were friends or dates that didn't lead to anything because she was living in California at the time. She said in that Vogue interview that she has been able to stay friends with dates that did not work out. She also said a while back that she has a lot of guy friends and that she is tired of people assuming that every guy she is seen with is a boyfriend because it makes it look like she has had "six thousand boyfriends." I think she is conservative in her dating and that is why you never see her with another guy when she is in a relationship.
Yeah. She was never seen with anyone other than Will the whole time she was with him, either. She even brought him to Award shows and things. I don't buy the open relationship idea.
I think the issue is more like these guys try putting a ring on Emmas finger and she just has no interest in that kind of thing at the moment and things fizzle out or they get tired of being in the daily mail or seeing pap shots of Emma at the beach and cant handle dating a famous person something simple like that.
I think her breakups had more to deal with the her relenting work/film schedule when she was doing movies. And I think it’s pretty obvious she done with doing movies. If she is to find someone to eventually settle down with someone, I think now is the perfect time to do so because she’s just doing side jobs at this point (The London Project). But what confuses me is that she settles for American men, but at the same time, their families most likely live on different sides of the world, which puts a strain on the relationship. I feel like in order for that type of relationship to work out, she’s gonna need to find someone who’s willing to permanently move to the UK with her. That or find some guy who lives in London (which is a guy she doesn’t want to date). Or she may want to permanently move to the states, which is an unlikely scenario given what may have been happening recently with Leo. It looks to me like she’s looking, but at the same time, she doesn’t necessarily want to fully settle down yet. She’s still doing stuff.
Some of you write she's modern & progressive giving the example of having by her multiply boyfriends over the last few/several years; some of you say: she's conservative.
No one knows the truth.
In my opinion she's conservative, maybe much more than she wants to admit.
Remember at the TLW premiere what she answered to the question what character is the closest to her heart? She replied very promptly: Jo... She didn't "defend" her Meg at all (except for some complimentary lines about her and her desires).
She's conservative and it has nothing to do with the number of her boyfriends. I think she's constantly looking for mr. right and once she finds him she (most probably) settles down very quickly (becoming a mum too).
She's not that liberated, free-mind, modern, liberal (in many life's aspects) as she wants to present herself to the world.
She probably knows that being a liberated feminist would be much more trendy & cool rather than a conservative mindset.
But it's a part of her PR game (god knows how many people are involved behind the scenes; we see only Luke, but I don't think he's the only one who's managing her public image).
In my opinion we don't know her REAL own self and I don't mean here her private secrets; but how she is as a person and what really drives her.
The only we know & see it's a perfectly built PR image.
No one really knows (except her family & close friends) what is behind the facade...
the last comment has read my mind. It's completely all I think about Emma
Totally agree with the Anon above who wrote about Eden (nothing against you, our Admin), just pure truth.
The fact you don't share private details about Emma doesn't mean you don't invade her privacy; most likely you know about some facts about her (the way how they get "leaked" might be described as intrusive), but you don't share them publicly anymore. You still know much more than majority people active on this forum: either you get the news from your own known sources or you look for them on your own. But decided not to post them any longer. This is the only difference between your former behavior and the current one.
No offense. C'est la vie.
I mean prove it above anon? you are just speculating you have no truth as you are so fond of repeating lol we all know you are just the same commentator agreeing with yourself
Sometimes people from a divorced family background grow to have little interest in the idea of marriage or long term relationships think thats just how Emma is not that deep
haha!
I don't know the person who wrote the short line below my comment. and I won't know since almost all of us are writing as anons.
but it seems you're jealous that someone can agrees with someone.
it didn't happen to you, right?
your comments have been just left on their own...
hahahaha!!! I feel even sorry for you. hahahahaaa!
Emma seems like a fence sitter centrist to me.
Anon laughing to yourself come on your writing style is very similar in every comment and how you paragraph things it's really easy to spot you talking to yourself ;) it's not that hard to see that only you agree with yourself please get madder that you were caught it's pretty funny.
Poor you.
Think whatever you wish.
You make me only laugh.
Yes, I'm the author of all comments, including yours.
This is the very last reply to you mad lines.
It's me who wrote the comment about I agree with that anonymous. I don't think my writing is similar, because English is not my mother tongue.I think he is right, and that is not why we are going to be the same person
Was wondering when that Anon who always writes 'I agree with' when talking to themselves would be exposed lmao!!!!
no we all agree with that one anon other anon
stop thinking you are so smarty
you are not
I am a girl who wrote two days ago for the first time on the blog and I have agreed with a comment. That's all, I don´t care what you think, but anyway I don´t think that comment is so weird how to think people can not agree with this.
Hey, is Emma ever gonna come back to social media or is she just retired now?
Lol your broken english is very noticeable my dude using a name wont help you look like a new commentor
"Hey, is Emma ever gonna come back to social media or is she just retired now? "
Well technically she uses her own private social media still but her 'business' accounts or public ones look abandoned tbh :( I think she did not like to trend on twitter that one time last year and got scared of using it anymore
"broken english is very noticeable" my english is broken because I am not english or american person xd but thanks for your insult, it pushs me to continue with my english lessons xd But you can believe what you want, I am not the person who wrote that comment, because my level of English as you say is broken :)
Good that you admit all those comments were noticeable at least have a good day. :D
Honestly, I'm not that missing of Emma on social media she stopped really posting much last few years anyway.
It was mainly news articles or links things like this not really fun tweets about what she was doing like trying to fix her printer or mock internet rumours about being cast in 50 shades of grey haha
That was back when it seemed she really was the one tweeting now it feels like a PR team and wasn't that fun to follow anymore anyway.
Maybe she will activate those account again as if she was really finished with them she would delete them.
Elena, it's me who wrote the initial post.
Whoever you are: don't reply to the moron; she or he just feeds himself/herself with your responses. The more replies he/she gets, the more content the creature is. He/she is willing to accuse you of having multiply accounts (non-anon). Don't feed the troll, really.
As we say where I come from: don't ever argue with an idiot; firstly: he brings you down to his level and secondly: he beats you by his idiot experience ;-)
"Was wondering when that Anon who always writes 'I agree with' when talking to themselves would be exposed lmao!!!!"
I was wondering the same thing since this thread starting getting more and more comments. My feeling was it is the same dude agreeing with himself all over. A couple of dudes here (or is it just the one?) really need to get over Emma. She's never going to look at you, sorry.
Reply to yourself all day 'Elena' we are laughing
'I was wondering the same thing since this thread starting getting more and more comments. My feeling was it is the same dude agreeing with himself all over'
Yup and they have the same sentence structure each time and it's obviously not native English (not mocking it's just easy to see as an English speaker is all) They were caught and can't deal with it...oh well pretty funny to read anyway.
Thanks for the advice :) although I really didn't plan to answer again (most likely he/she thinks I am having a conversation with myself lol) but I'm not going to waste my time anymore, you're right. I am here to talk about emma and not anwering to trolls
(I think that even Eden could tell if we are the same person or not.) I am sure she has to know when a trol is answering himself right?)
I'm sure Eden can see and ban IP address of trolls anyone replying to themselves will be caught easy that way.
"anyone replying to themselves will be caught easy that way. "
Yes, this person who created Elena to chat to themselves will have a record its how Blogspot works when I had a blog.
Hopefully, Eden will rule on the matter. I'm not a liar.
It'd more than welcome if Eden can tell us if the same IP was being used or two different ones :-)
Eden, I believe you can track it down, right?
Guys just stop one of you is lying and will just make Eden close the comments if you keep it up. Get back to Emma, please?
As for her social media, it seemed like a break at first but it's gone on a bit too long to just feel like that anymore I'm unsure if she has plans to keep on with public life anymore/
I understood that emma's social networks were run by her agency and that she did not use it at all. So I suppose when she feels better or covid stops, maybe her agency decides to post news and photos again.
I think she hired a social media team who manages her accounts but they failed to post enough during serious events activists should have been tweeting about in 2020 and caused Emma to trend on Twitter for being far too quiet or ignoring the issues she had previously said she cared about. Emma next got a backlash and was not happy with her team and likely fired them and is waiting to get a new team and will leave all her accounts shut down until then. Just my two cents.
She has enough time to go on vacation every month and do next to nothing and can't even run her own social media accounts? Wasn't some of the backlash that she put white borders around her Blackout posts? That sounds more like something she would do and not her social media team. Sometimes she even posts selfies. Are we sure she did not do her own social media stuff?
She used to do her own social media back in 2011-2014 kind of time when it was clearly her writing her own tweets.
Like about random movies she was watching or what songs she liked but then her social media changed to be rather cold and distant.
It was only posting articles and never any comments from Emma herself only very rare occasions. most celebs have social media managers and then private accounts they use for friends and family themselves.
Her Twitter as of late had looked very managed by someone else, but I always thought her Instagram looked like she was running it herself-hence the white borders on Blackout, the selfies, the "I stay home for mum and best friend," etc.
Do all these stars really hire teams to do their social media? I am not doubting anyone. I'm just blown away. Jesus, how hard is it to post a couple things a week yourself? With Emma it got to like twice a month or something on Twitter. They really need people to do that for them? Unbelievable.
If Emma thinks her PR team isn't posting enough about important issues, then she needs to step in and post herself. The fact that she didn't tells you that she doesn't really give a damn, either.
I can only speak for my own time working at a PR firm but yes many celebs have a team creating content for them on social media. Many are scared of the idea of 'cancellation' these days and want to make sure everything is written and posted in a professional sounding manner that will avoid people giving them backlash. It didn't help Emma much last year as we saw her team dropped the ball and didn't sound heartfelt enough about BLM, there was a point Emma took over again though you can tell by that Instagram post she edited to say 'I did not apologize for anything as media have reported as I did nothing wrong!' That's maybe not the exact quote but it sounded like her taking over from, her team briefly.
In other words they are all just a bunch of fakes who want to make sure they look good. It is just image. Emma has an Ivy League and Oxford education and is worried she cannot word things to avoid backlash? If you need a team of people to try and sound heartfelt about something and cannot do it yourself, then you probably really don't give a shit about it in the first place. Chalk another one up for her hypocrisy.
I refuse to believe that a PR team put the white borders around her posts. For the record, I have no problem with it and think the controversy is stupid, but no way do I believe a PR team did that.
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